View Full Version : Commemorating the martyrdom of Imam Ali
Big Dog
09-12-2010, 08:58 AM
Got it in an e-mail, no knowledge of it's validity ..........
Well ,..... We've ALL been pretty passive & understanding for all of their special rights up 'til now,..... so,....... reckon this will tick anybody off ?
IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THIS.
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY....
(This is so "Unbelievable".. )
In Houston , Texasat the Harwin Central Mall:
The very first store that you come to when you walk
from the lobby of the building into theshopping area
had this sign posted on their door.
The shop is run by Muslims.
Feel free to share this with others.
In case you are not able to read the sign below, it says
"We will be closed on Friday, September 11, 2009
to commemorate the martyrdom of Imam Ali"
47843
Imam Ali flew one of the planes into the twin towers.
(Nice huh? )
Try telling me we're not in a
Religious war!
THIS HAS NOT BEEN AROUND ....SO MAKE SURE IT DOES!
Cowboy
09-12-2010, 09:10 AM
Looks like a great place for a drive through , For a fuckin semi :hammer:
muleman
09-12-2010, 09:15 AM
Texans are so understanding! Send them up here and I will show them how to really celebrate it!:hammer::hammer:
jpr62902
09-12-2010, 09:32 AM
I don't think any of the hijackers were Imams, nor were any of them named "Ali."
Per Wiki, Imam Ali was the cousin\son-in-law of Muhammed. He died (was martyred) on the 21st day of Ramadan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali
That said, this stunt does strike me as a proverbial thumb in the eye from some insolent Muslim assholes.
I don't think any of the hijackers were Imams, nor were any of them named "Ali."
Per Wiki, Imam Ali was the cousinson-in-law of Muhammed. He died (was martyred) on the 21st day of Ramadan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali
That said, this stunt does strike me as a proverbial thumb in the eye from some insolent Muslim assholes.
Never ever fact check, just screws up all the fun.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/photos/martyr.asp
I cant seem to copy anything today, but it is a religious holiday where ever that guy is from, I guess the Imam Ali guy was why the Shities and the Sunnies split. Something like that, but not a honor to a 9/11 hijacker.
Pesky religious freedoms.
jpr62902
09-12-2010, 09:52 AM
Ok, maybe they weren't insolent assholes. It's still astonishing that they didn't recognize the potential problem.
Ok, maybe they weren't insolent assholes. It's still astonishing that they didn't recognize the potential problem.
Oh yea, no doubt, he should have thought about Sep 11.
Cowboy
09-12-2010, 10:31 AM
Never ever fact check, just screws up all the fun.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/photos/martyr.asp
I cant seem to copy anything today, but it is a religious holiday where ever that guy is from, I guess the Imam Ali guy was why the Shities and the Sunnies split. Something like that, but not a honor to a 9/11 hijacker.
Pesky religious freedoms.
I guess it just depends on what you refer to as fact . :wink:
This questioned has been asked to me more than a few times. You be the judge of the “authoritative source.”
“For the past few years www.snopes.com has positioned itself, or others have labeled it as the ‘tell-all, final word’ on any comment, claim and e-mail. But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com.
Only recently did Wikipedia get to the bottom of it -kinda makes you wonder what they were hiding. Well, finally we know. It is run by a husband and wife team – that’s right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers. It’s just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby. David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website about 13 years ago – and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years people started asking questions who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation? The reason for the questions – or skepticism’s is a result of snopes.com claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issues, when in fact, they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the ‘true’ bottom of various issues.
When I saw that Snopes had falsely claimed that Obama’s Birth Certificate had been properly validated, I realized something was wrong with either their research and/or their credibility. It seems something is seriously wrong with both.
Then a few months ago, when my State Farm agent, Bud Gregg, in Mandeville hoisted a political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the Internet, supposedly the Mikkelson’s claim to have researched this issue before posting their findings on snopes.com. In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort ever took place. I personally contacted David Mikkelson (and he replied back to me) thinking he would want to get to the bottom of this, and I gave him Bud Gregg’s contact phone numbers. Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec’s at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak with him about it. He never called Bud. In fact, I learned from Bud Gregg no one from snopes.com ever contacted anyone with State Farm. Yet snopes.com issued a statement as the ‘final factual word’ on the issue as if they did all their homework and got to the bottom of things.
Not!
So, I say this now to everyone who goes to www.snopes.com to get what they think to be the bottom line facts: Proceed with caution. Take what it says at face value and nothing more. Use it only to lead you to their references where you can link to and read the sources for yourself. Plus, you can always Google a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent that’s all the Mikkelson’s do. After all, I can personally vouch from my own experience for their ‘not’ fully looking into things.”
Check it out and in the future when someone wants to “snopes.com” you, send them a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes
http://www.metroedit.com/2009/05/how-accurate-is-snopescom/
Any source you use you have to think about the creditiblity. Imam Ali is who they said he is. Snopes is not the only way to check facts, but it more realiable than other sites and can give you an idea of where to look for more facts. No source is infallable.
Big Dog
09-12-2010, 11:01 AM
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/9-11/9-11_hijackers_still_alive.htm
I guess just bad timing for the shop owner ...............
I don't use snopes anymore, don't trust them. It's why I always say "no knowledge of it's validity"
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